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League Idea
April 13, 2013
1:47 pm
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Hello Chaps,

 

After a small discussion that took place at the club, with only a few BB'ers present. The consenus was a short or easy to managerun league. Either teams are progressive or tourny style and another idea was only 3 games per team.....though this can be directly related to how active the Club BB scene is!

 

Anyhow my idea is thus:

 

Teams will be made up from 1,100,000 GP’s

 

The team you build will stay the same for every game, players cheat death/Injuries and return for the next game, this format is commonly used on the tournament scene.

 

Additionally teams will be able to select a certain number of skills, depending on their tier will decide how many points you get!

 

 

Tier 1 - Amazon, Dark Elf, Dwarf, Elf, High Elf, Human**, Norse, Ork, Skaven, Undead, Wood Elf - 5 Skill points

 

Tier 2 - Chaos, Chaos Dwarf, Khemri, Lizardman, Necromantic, Nurgle**, Slann**, Vampire** - 8 Skill Points

 

Tier 3 - Chaos Pact**, Goblin, Halfling, Ogre, Underworld – 12 skill Points

 

** denotes that these teams are often bounced around tiers

 

Skills are attributed as the following

 

Normal Skills  - 1pt

Double      - 2pts

+Ma/Av  - 3pts

+St/Ag  - 4pts

 

Players can have multiple skills, up to 3 skills.

 

So for example a tier one team could have 5 players with a normal skill. Or 3 players with one skill and another dude with two  normal skills. The combo’s are fairly extensive..but I hope its understandable.

 

This is just an idea and open to discussion, its rather simplistic but it seems thats what we need atm. I'm pondering whether to adopt Tourny style scoring as well...so for example the two teams ina match up would share a certain amount of points of a given total ie 32.

 

Win = 20 pts

Draw = 16pts

Lose = 12 pts

 

in its basic form, but additional points can be given for cas/Td's etc

 

So what do people think?

Whose Game :)

April 13, 2013
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I don't know, it sounds cool.

April 15, 2013
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like idea but not the attribute increases for me.

 

i`ll chat to wookie tonight and post something wed....for definite!

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April 16, 2013
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The Idea is good,

May be limit the attribute increase to one per team.

April 16, 2013
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The attribute increases are there to reflect the possible team advancements that you can achieve. Like we all know they can be game changers and its there to represent that possibility. Its all good pre Tourney experience :D

 

The attributes increases do work out ok, going on experience no one will likely take +Ma/Av. The crunch ones are the Ag and especially St, hence why they are more costly. So its a brave coach that uses up a vast portion of his skill points on one skill, especially Tier 1 teams, leaving just one other skill for another player. As these are basically rookie teams with a light smattering of skills, it can be dangerous to put all your eggs in one basket so-to-speak.

 

Its only Tier three that can truely take advantage of the attributes increasement and maybe Tier two teams. I'd have to say its not the +St you need worry about, more of the possibility of Claw/MB/PO their just evil ...muhahaha.

 

That said Tier 2 and especially Tier 3 can struggle in these environments with their skills....so plenty to chat over :)

 

I'll try and be down the club myself tonight....

 

Anyone for a game?

April 16, 2013
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i dont know is the answer.

 

i think i`m playing malifaux but its not been confirmed.

 

i`ve just txt juck and itchen

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April 16, 2013
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Ohh, I might want to bring out a team for something like this.

April 16, 2013
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Oops sorry guys, ventured to the pub this afternoon....and stayed there!! So will be there at club next week.

 

I'll get to topic of BB leagues there after.

 

But on a more social note, is there scope for a curry night or 'piss up' with guys from the club... we can all bore each other with our preferered game etc...over a pint or two :)

 

Anyways, bck to my earlier statement...went to the pub this afternoon, need I say more :)

April 17, 2013
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Prez said

But on a more social note, is there scope for a curry night or 'piss up' with guys from the club... we can all bore each other with our preferered game etc...over a pint or two :)

The council have talked about this in the past and it normally comes down to not wanting to alienate members who cant afford it.

One of the solutions we came up with but we haven't organised yet is a BBQ by the beach how does that sound?

April 18, 2013
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Could be great fun :)

April 20, 2013
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Could be great fun

The Beach BBQ or the league idea :)

April 22, 2013
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Any chance we can make the slann a 12 point team. Im not sure if they are that bad but it would encourage seeing them! They dont have any block so I doubt its a great side in this sort of format

April 22, 2013
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I would have to go against putting Slann in Tier 3, I find the Slann a bogey team as it is. So with all these leaping lunatics having access to 12 skill points, would unbalance things somewhat. Even with 8 you can get a leap with Wrestle or Strip ball, even both skills jumping into your cage... So plenty of scope for a ST4 Blitzer to sack your ball carrier .

 

Good to see there is some dialogue going at last :) I will be at club tomorrow night.

 

In the mean time any ideas on league format, outside of how teams are built. In other words Open Round Robin amongst those in, with teams playing. Play your three games and that its. Maybe scope for having two teams involved?

 

Thoughts

April 22, 2013
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i really need some time to write this damn thing up! not anyone`s fault i`m just annoyed at myself!

 

get some rules together then i`ll post it and we can get started.

 

i`m down but not playing bbl this week.

 

prez can play. is itchen or juck coming down this week?

does brown still want to play dreadball?

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April 22, 2013
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Right so thinking on my feet:

 

Insert name of tourney here...

3 month tournament window.  10 weeks to get tournament games played.  This means if you come down every other week you have about 5 games u can play. It also means the less bbl centred coaches should be able to get 3 games played in that time.

Depending on the the number of coaches we either go semi finals or quarter finals (assume semi) and then final.

Prize for winning (tba)

 

Skill sets for teams.

Personally i`m not big on stat/ag increases.  so i would take prez idea and say 4 pts for top tier teams and NO player with more than 2 added skills. 

tier 2.  6 pts same rule about 2 skills

tier 3    8 pts (in the end we arent trying to balance the teams just make the stunty teams a bit more fun but in the end they are supposed to be the fun teams).  my concern with too many pts is teams like ogres with 6 dbles....

 

Questions i have for views....

1. Do we have max number of games per team be it 3 or 4 or 5....or do we say play as much as you want and we use best 3 results?  Or a mix of both and you can play upto 5 and take the best 3? Personally i prefer for this format a limit to games a team can play in some way.

 

thoughts?

 

 

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April 22, 2013
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With a structure like that I'd sign up my Norse (or Elves).

On the scoring and number of games, you could also go with an average of your game score somehow, then the number of games you play matters less?

 

 

April 22, 2013
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thyrus said
Right so thinking on my feet:

 Insert name of tourney here...
3 monther week you have about 5 games u can play. It also means the less bbl centred coaches should be able to get 3 games played in that time.

Depending on the the number of coaches we either go semi finals or quarter finals (assume semi) and then final.

Prize for winning (tba)

 Skill sets for teams.

Personally i`m not big on stat/ag increases.  so i would take prez idea and say 4 pts for top tier teams and NO player with more than 2 added skills. 

tier 2.  6 pts same rule about 2 skills

tier 3    8 pts (in the end we arent trying to balance the teams just make the stunty teams a bit more fun but in the end they are supposed to be the fun teams).  my concern with too many pts is teams like ogres with 6 dbles....

Questions i have for views....

1. Do we have max number of games per team be it 3 or 4 or 5....or do we say play as much as you want and we use best 3 results?  Or a mix of both and you can play upto 5 and take the best 3? Personally i prefer for this format a limit to games a team can play in some way.

 thoughts?

 

 

Hmm Ok, I'll go with the above, think 8pts maybe a smidging bit too small, but still do able.

 

Like the idea of playing X number of games and take best 3 results, to further this idea, this where we can bring in the points for win/draw/lose etc and additional points for

Win - 20

Draw - 15

Lose - 10

Then bonus points -

TD's (Max of 3)  so a 3-0 win will get you an extra 3pts

Win the casualty count (max of 3)

 

So a 3-0 win with a 2-1 in cas's equates to

Winner - 20 + 3 + 1 = 24pts

Loser - 10pts

 

So hopefully we'll have majority of the game/league structure ready to go tomorrow night.So best come with a team and the set up of team for this new league

 

April 22, 2013
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Yeah sounds good.

 

I would rather we go for 4months to make sure most players will get the chance to play. Im not so bothered with capping the games as we dont skill or die, but I guess its more chance to get 3 wins. I think lets set a 6 game cap but effectively I am happy without one

April 23, 2013
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Right now I'm confused! Can we have an official roster selection rules put in a separate thread please so i can get my teams planned? Where they are spread over the thread its a little unclear and not welcoming to less dedicated players (or those who struggle to read i.e. me) Thanks!

 

 

oooh oooh can we buy star players or inducements with our 1,100,000?

 

Will come back at lunch time to choose my team (hopefully :D )

 

 

 

ps can we call the tourney The Dean Hully Memorial Trophy?! It must be nearly a year since he was viciously buggered to death on pompey docks and taken from the world of Blood Bowl :(

 

Obviosuly if he does come back we might need to change the name... hehe

April 23, 2013
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Hang on! Necro are in Tier 2? I'd say they were one of the stronger starting rosters.

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